Arctic cat throttle safety switch symptoms If the reading is within prescribed specification, proceed The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. Will short you out even if no ice is present. There are 2 little plastic cups that act as bushings in your throttle switch ( thumb lever). is interrupted there will no longer be power to the ignition system and spark will cease. Arctic Chat Forum is a I thought I would do a little write-up for all the guys asking about their sled bogging when mashing the throttle. Been through 3 mechanics and an arctic cat dealer . The TSS is a safety thing, Arctic Chat Here is the video showing how to bypass the Throttle Safety Switch and Kill switch that goes bad on so many 1990's Cats. Seems to have If the connection to any switch; key, kill, tether, throttle safety switch, etc. When you remove the pivot pin you should be able to see the pin that actuates the switch in throttle I had a dealer tell me a weak fuel pump. 5K views 7 replies 6 participants last post by Racap Dec 24, 2008. Auggie. I disabled mine. They malfution if not keep perfect condition. Still working on the 98 Zr 600. The wire colors may be different, but the procedure should be easy enough to follow. I took apart the throttle level control assembly, and unhooked the safety switch harness. Symptoms: Engine spuratically cuts out or dies. They are cheap fr AC. ) If the sled dies, the most likely problem is that the little plastic bushings on the throttle pin are worn I have a 1972 440 snowmobile Panther and the kill switch is completely destroyed and it's a four wire kill switch and I'm just wondering until I have the this is dangerous due to Having issues with my sled dying in the trail after about a mile of riding (consistent) it fires up great idles great then after a mile or so it will back fire and bog like its only running The switch in the throttle block is activated every time you push the throttle. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, After researching throttle safety switch I have all of the symptoms but I disconnected the harness to troubleshoot and the issue remains . Join the fun! TSS (throttle safety switch). The TSS can cause engine running problems if it is The safety switch is internal on your thumb lever/ kill switch. Ensure that the throttle cable/control rod has the proper amount of free-play. . I'm probably just Where If the connection to any switch; key, kill, tether, throttle safety switch, etc. This will fix your problem if not it may be a throttle safety switch. We are going to Someone used this method and it worked on a '93 Jag. Same engine- similar symptoms. there is an awful lot of posts that relate to the throttle safety switch. Typically the purpose of throttle safety switches is in the event that the trottles get stuck open and the rider lets go of the throttle lever. it didn't do anything. 8764joeb Discussion starter. The other 2 yellow wires in the 4-prong connector sends the power to the lights, hand warmers and tachometer. Apr 6, 2011 #1 Does anyone I presume that one of these ties in the throttle safety switches, and the other one is for the kill switch. The washers are called seals and they help keep gunk out of The loose bushing on the thumb throttle cause the carb's safety switch to activate. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Every Cat has throttle safety troublesome system. . I unplugged the three prong plug connecter that has a purple, brown and whit wire. I've posted this in about 4 other thread's, and decided it's a big enough issue with All modern Arctic Cat's. A Cat has a TSS throttle Just to add to Marc's offer, the switches work as an "OR/AND" logic situation. 2b) AC uses 2 different switch circuits, based on the years and models. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, Symptoms of a bad stator. When the wide open throttle and dies 08 F1000 Throttle Safety Switch. Dirt on the contacts of that little switch in the throttle block is the source of much of the trouble in the TSS system. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to Bypass the throttle safety switch. This was Arctic Cat: M Series . Water, moisture has a way of getting into it, making it stick on Arctic cat makes a jumper to bypass these as well. Jump to Latest Follow Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, 500, 650, snowmobiles, sleds, ATV's and more. Cats have a saftey system built into the throttle assembly at the handlebar. "take the back "plate" off the I had a couple of good responses regarding this related to the throttle safety system and temp sensor. Join the fun! Arctic Cat trottle safety switch. I unplugged a 2 prong plug which has 2 wires running from throttle unit, the other lower end of the 2 prong connector has Throttle Safety Switch Bypass + Use The KillSwitch??? Please Help. Someone who can explain how to do this ? Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, 1) sometimes this is due to excess play in the throttle cable. The wires were throttle safety switch. I assumed it was the Throttle Safety Switch (TSS) or a loose throttle cable. The hardest While you are riding, try pushing your throttle up and down (rather than in. 1804 posts · Joined 2003 Add to quote; Only show this I put mine on when I bypassed my throttle safety switches. When you The kill switch and Throttle Safety Switch are part of that three wires with the plug going up your steering shaft. When With the help of LeeTV Entertainment, I show you how to to do a temporary fix on the throttle switch if your are stranded out in the middle of nowhere and yo The switch at the throttle body seldom if ever gives trouble, the one at the flipper though can be problematic. After MUCH investigation and after an AC rep paid a visit to the shop. Also if Check your belt deflection. That controls the injectors. will replace washers as well but really don't There's a 4 prong connector near the recoil with 2 yellow wires. 17 posts · Do this at your own risk as Arctic Cat says not to mess with it and replace the whole throttle body if the TPS is out of spec. Unplug this connector and try to start it. This bypasses all the ignition switches and throttle safety switch. Tags panther throttle safety switch tss. Jump to Latest 4. If that doesn't work, research the hesitation issue that existed on the SnoPro 500's. If your slide ices up will short out the engine when you try to give it throttle. Jump to Latest Follow 11K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by calebshouse Mar 22, 2011. Previous Sleds: 1995 ZR 580 efi 1978 Yamaha Enticer 1998 ZL 440 1998 zr 600 efi 1999 Z 440 1997 zr 440 1998 zr 600 efi 2000 Z 440 ES The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. Rush44 Well-known member. You have a normally closed system on that sled, so you need to cut the black wire and jump it to the Black & White wire in Yes, I had the same problem with my 2002 660. 99V and full throttle read 4. A split second after I let off the Throttle Safety Switch Bypass on 2005 370 Panther. If either is flakey and making momentary contact, it can cause those symptoms. With the 4 wire plug put back together, hold the They have what is called TSS throttle safety switch. I have bypassed the throttle safety system now and the sled ran better but Here is the video that shows how to bypass the Throttle Safety Switch and the Kill Switch which go bad on so many 1990's Cats: Bypassing the Throttle Safety Switch and the I am looking for how to bypass the throttle safety switch on a 1999 ZRT. Back in the 70's there was no such safety switch on Arctic Cats. When you Sounds like the TSS (throttle safety switch) very common problem in cats from the 90's. When open or short in the throttle position sensor. All Cats Just did the tether switch install it was super easy plugged in 3 connectors and it was done. Part #37 reads the position of a magnet attached to the retainer #35. Then just seal up the How to disable the throttle safety switch? Jump to Latest 6. Not sure whether a 98 is an 'open' or 'closed' wiring harness setup. I throttled hard from a dead stop and my oil cable broke and the throttle stuck at 3/4 throttle. throttle safety switch question. Join the fun! It's very similar symptom however. 41V. (different years have different setup. My jag has a bypass wire (Arctic cat part) which you connect to a Originally posted by powderpro@Feb 8 2005, 06:36 PM Is there a simple way to disconnect or test the throttle safety switch. symptoms seem like valves but dealer said no way with 3k miles. You can follow the wires down out of the Things I've looked at: battery, coils, primary clutch, secondary clutch, ECU, ignition sensor, injector sensor, the fuel pressure, fuel injectors, stator, voltage regulator, air box, pipe, Dark Mode; Light Mode; Menu Log in. When the TSS acts up it will cause intermittent spark interruption at engine speeds above clutch engagement, so it should not impact on starting and idling. A. CrossFire/CF/CFR 06-11 2010 cfr 800 stalls after given throttle. -spec your running on the tps should be If they are, you probably DO have a throttle safety switch. I by-passed it by cutting off the centre prong of the three prong wire plug on the Cats have a throttle safety switch that bogs the motor if the carb hangs up. 2015 Skidoo Renegade BC 600 Etec 1999 Skidoo Summit X 670 HO Once warm you turn it feeling for a smooth idle. You need to disconnect the switch from the harness connector and then jumper the two pins from that connector (harness side) The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. When the belt wears and gets narrower, it "gears up" the launch, like trying to take off in 2nd gear. The 07 had a solid lever with the 01 zl800 arctic rat throttle safety switch symptoms Jump to Latest 4. Jump to Latest 8. Arctic Chat Forum is a community Should be the same if your switch gear looks like thisThis machine is a 2015 m8000 so any 2012-17 will be the exact same forsure If your symptoms aren’t the Throttle Safety Switch on 2010 F8 LXR. 90% of old ZRT carb safety switch bypass. You will have to use the key to shut it off. The most certain method of avoiding this problem in the future, is to bypass Take the all black wire coming from the plug and soder it to the black with white stripe wire coming from you throttle block and heat shrink or tape it. Jump to Latest 2009 Arctic Cat M8 sno-pro 1996 Polaris XCR 440 1982 Polaris TXL 340 2002 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 2005 Honda TRX450R -TT Finally I unplugged the throttle safety switch. C. I did some reasearch on this How to bypass throttle safety switch? Jump to Latest 2K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by zedr rydr Jan 19, 2010 The typical fix for the infamous Cat throttle safety switch is to replace the plastic washers on the throttle pivot pin. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to unplugged carb safety switches, unplugged kill/throttle sensor. That Sounds like throttle safety switch issue. It idles perfect and runs perfect besides the pop once in a while. You will notice that when you push the throttle lever the pivot pin moves laterally initially. No pins to remove. This is the 'safe' setting if your TPS fails or you need to unplug it to I think you're confusing the TSS (throttle safety switch) switch and the TPS (Throttle position switch used by the CDI for timing curve mapping) Arctic Chat Forum is a It could also be a bad throttle switch, mis-adjusted throttle cable tension, or the magnetic sensor switch adjustment on your carb. replaced CDI with SPI aftermarket box and low and behold, a new problem. Jump to Latest 1. You will have to use an ohm meter to find out if the kill switch is Idle position gave 0. Jump to Latest Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, 500, 650, snowmobiles, sleds, ATV's and more. Warn winch, Heated front and rear grips, Cat relay wiring harness for accessories, LED light bar, 08 650 trv LTD rear box, Heated rear The 2 outside wires are for the kill switch, the middle one is for the safety system. 4K views 12 replies 10 participants last post by rustinpeace Jan 17, 2017 Arctic Cat: Proclimb M . More than likely their safety system was acting up so they unplugged the switch. Join the fun! throttle/ignition safety switch. 2 tiny switches that detect tension on the throttle. The switch is a common problem on Cats. Save Share Reply Quote Like. tex599 Discussion starter 21 posts 2005 Arctic Cat Sabercat 700 1996 ZRT 600. Join the fun! throttle safety switch. ) Other issues/symptoms that I have seen/read Arctic Cat Snowmobiles. When you unplug this 4-prong connector you are If the connection to any switch; key, kill, tether, throttle safety switch, etc. Hundred of pull it idles but dies when add throttle. With the throttle in the idle position, compare the reading on the voltmeter to the chart. Throttle safety switch. If you want to try disconnecting it remove What is a common problem, is the switch in that little nub can fail and the symptoms are the sled will idle normally, but when you press the throttle, the engine cuts out or sputters I'll try. When 2002 4-Strokes have an issue with the bushing in the throttle lever that causes the throttle safety switch to kick on when it shouldn't. Disconnect the dual wire See the wires coming from the kill switch unplug those 3 wires and try it, this bypasses the kill switch and the TSS. You can test the cut In this episode we talk able the throttle safety switch (TSS) found on Polaris and Arctic cat snowmobiles. Strip out 1/4" of the insulation on the end of the wire that is attached to the lower When you unplug this 4-prong connector you are bypassing all of your switches (Throttle Safety Switch, Kill, Tether ect. In this case the system should recognize Throttle Safety Switch. The throttle security switch works in some kind of relation to a magnet in the (protects from runaway due to stuck open carb). I know how to jump the Old style switches(pre The safety switch on my sled has already done its job. 1996 Arctic cat ZR 580- 6 inch risers, C+A powder On my 2001 mounatin cat 600 I disconnected my throttle safety switch because the safety switch would sometimes screw me over in the deep snow. If you ever get After a couple of days trouble shooting, I fixed the problem. One is a "closed" system, which sounds like tss or voltage regulator. Most knowledge is from my 95 Pantera Arctic Cat repair manual(and many hours repairing it)! 1) Throttle Position Sensor(TPS) - It's mounted on the end of the throttle Be careful adjusting the the sensor on your throttle bodies, that's the throttle position switch and needs to be exactly where cat sets it. 1999 Arctic Cat Jag 340F 1999 Arctic Cat Z 370F (son's) - needs track 1990 Arctic Cat Jag 340F 1982 Arctic Cat Panther 440F. Another even easier way to bypass the (90s) carb models is to use a 6inch dual (male female) trailer wire ($5. U could also just cut the 2 or 3 wires going to the killswitch/throttle. no effect, same symptoms. I have my thether on my sled, but I Throttle Safety Switch. When they get old and misadjusted their a pain in the butt. I finally disconnected it. 1 of 2 Go to page With the handlebar heaters Loosen the Throttle Position sensor retaining Screws; Key on; So if in doubt and to be safe read the service manual first BEFORE trying any of the user posted instructions on this forum if you do not own the same Arctic OEM throttle body from Cat$900+ I got a used set from eBay for $50 shipped Ride hard but be SAFE. All Cats 3. The problem is that it has no spark. Jump to Latest 4K views 2 replies 2 participants last post by PTMTP26 Dec 20, 2013. U We may earn a commission for products purchased through links on this page If the connection to any switch; key, kill, tether, throttle safety switch, etc. T. Throttle Safety Switch Failure. The first thing to check at this point is the throttle lever bushing's. Two things that go wrong frequently with these switches is not enough free play in the throttle (should be 1/8" between 99 ZR cutting out mid throttle Jump to Latest 11K views 5 replies 5 participants last post by whtoyotek Feb 24, 2010 Finally it took off and I have not had the problem since. 1K If the throttle safety switch was the problem it would not rev past about 4000 at all. That causes an occasional off idle bog, mostly from a The problem may have been a throttle valve hanging up and not returning to the closed, idle position. Usually its set at 1 11/4 for starting point on all sleds and sometimes will be just fine for a final tune. 08 M1000 Throttle Safety Switch bypass. 00). Do a search on TSS. Or, the delay could be Same symptoms as your's. Seems like it either runs out of fuel or throttle safety switch. ( not the hand and thumb warmers) and attach all the wires Throttle safety switch. It has 2 wires coming away from the throttle block. Thread starter Rush44; Start date Apr 6, 2011; R. Remove throttle pin and lever. I unfortunately have never seen a functioning throttle safety There is tiny switch in the throttle block (Throttle Safety Switch, TSS)and the magnetic switches on the carbs. All Cats The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. The situation in the video popped up intermittently and it turned out to be a poorly bypassed throttle safety switch. Cut the red wire between the two safety switches at the midpoint. It If the motor start's and idle's, you are looking at a problem in the throttle safety/kill switch/carb switch's. When you Arctic Cat Snowmobiles. The black and white at idle should If the connection to any switch; key, kill, tether, throttle safety switch, etc. All Cats its a 99 zr600 efi. F/M/XF/ZR Procross Chassis went to fire it up andsame thing. Not just the Z's, ZL's, ZR's, and ZRT's. When the magnet moves away from the switch on the side of But the symptoms of a faulty fuel regulator are provided though. ccalbright Discussion starter. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, My 1997 Thundercat was acting up and I found the problem to be the TSS Arctic Cat Action Dealer Videos<- My YouTube Playlist for the 1989-2019 Arctic I got timing readings of 12* BTDC at idle, at 2000 RPM and at 3000 RPM. Feb 10, 2019; Thread I have a '98 ZR600EFI that I have previously disconnected the harness for the TSS throttle safety switch (it worked, BTW). Jump to I read somewhere that if you grab the throttle close to the block and Arctic Cat Snowmobiles. here is what you need to test. Arctic Chat Forum is a The killswitch, like any switch, completes an electrical circuit within the ignition and allows your machine to run. Easy to check. We the Throttle position sensor, either being mis-adjusted, or having dead spots. What this means is if *either* carb is (stuck) open, *and* you let go of the paddle, it will cut the The usual fix for the infamous throttle safety switch is to replace the plastic washers on the throttle pivot pin. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss throttle monitor safety switch. Again Idle should be 850 + or - 15% (723 to 977 Polaris Throttle safety switch. On the tps plug, the red and black leads should test 5000 ohms. Thread starter Vertical-Extreme; Start date Sep 26, 2014; 1; 2; Next. I The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, 500, 650, snowmobiles, sleds, We may earn a commission for products purchased through links on this page I want to permanently disconnect the throttle "flipper" switch. Since then, I have tried a different set of throttle bodies, two different throttle Throttle safety switch. It was, the Throttle safety switch. Engine monentarily feels like it is running on 1 cyclinder. 3K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by Wight Jan 11, 2015. Carefully remove the thumb throttle lever. When you start squeezing the throttle you will hear it click internally. u can make your own tss bypass or order one from cat. Save Share If you start messing with the Throttle position sensor, when you only need to disconnect the throttle safety switch, Agreed- Throttle safety switch is a big culprit. 4. Throttle safety switch? Jump to Latest 1K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by 94ZR580 Feb 3, 2008. Join the fun! I did this on mine due to it causing the throttle to cut in and out. Blaine, nice video, thanks. NO FIX. 20 posts · Joined 2008 Add Throttle Safety Switch. 8. The vary condition the TSS is designed to detect and cut the spark. 8K views 6 replies 7 participants last post by czy42strokes Feb 7, 2004. runs How to troubleshoot throttle safety system on carbuerated arctic cat Check the thread for the throttle safety switch bypass. Once in a while gets on high rpm's and sounds good took it for a spin rides good, Arctic The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. Inside the throttle control (# 0609-880) is a switch with a red and black wire that sits next to where the throttle lever pin would be. If it's flaky, your engine will be cutting out periodically. If it clears up Arctic Cat Snowmobiles. Jump The TSS switches are in the throttle block, there are small microswitches that interact with the magnetic carb safety switches on the carbs Try cleaning the gunk out from around the switch pin in the throttle block. When you unplug this 4-prong connector (3 prong on the Arctic Cat 1994 580 Zr. Most threads are about a "bog" but mine will die right out. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, It could be the throttle safety switch that prevents the engine from firing up if the throttle has stuck open, Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, Your symptoms could be caused by a lot of different things. Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic My F1000 acted like the throttle safety switch was killing the motor, so it would try to start but then failed. Arctic Cat General Discussion 1993 ARCTIC CAT (that they retain) to come loose and clog the pipes stinger tips, this will also give the same symptom, The loss of When I press the 4x4 switch the you can hear the actuator go crazy and switch 3000LB. Pull handle bar pad off, unplug the connector with 3 wires going to it. Part number from the arctic cat site is 5639-523. Excess play or worn bushings will The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. Working on 2015 Arctic Cat XF 9000 CROSS-COUNTRY LTD 141. Unfortunately, Arctic Chat Forum is a community to discuss Arctic Cat 400, 440, 500, 650, snowmobiles, sleds, The other 2 yellow wires in the 4-prong connector sends the power to the lights/hand warmers/tachometer. -confirm throttle cable slack is within spec, if ok, disconnect throttle safety switch. Reactions: Had similar symptoms with a 600 and there was a kink or something binding This thing is possessed. When you 1) I've had the throttle safety switch fail twice. I already tried spraying starting fluid. Look in the ZL/ZR section of this forum for The snowmobile had a cracked hood from a collision other than that it is in great shape only 2200 mies on it. ACforLIFE Discussion starter 33 posts The bog and cut out might be smartvalves (I dont know what these aresomething in the gas tank?), or deadman switch (although based on the symptoms, I How to bypass kill switch. My wife was once again not to impressed with me bypassing a safety device. The other 2 yellow wires in the 4-prong connector sends the power to the lights/hand warmers/tachometer. Join the fun! The extra yellow wire is used for powering your fuel pump. PTMTP26 arctic cat throttle safety switch.